He says, right now, renewable energy costs are even higher than oil costs: about 100 dollars a barrel for oil and up to 200 for renewable energy.
He expects it will be our grandchildren who will see renewable energy prices at reasonable levels.
"The renewable push will be slowly and I emphasize very slowly over 20 to 40 year period of time," he estimated.
In the meantime, he believes another alternative is in order and within our reach.
The federal government has already labeled natural gas as what they call a "transition fuel."
That definition allows natural gas companies to take advantage of tax breaks and incentives, which are reasons to do business and bring business to Hawaii.